Image via WikipediaAnd then they call me crazy for slamming the doucebag SKAI documetary series 1821.
As alarming as it will sound... the television documentary series was praised by the Turkish press for what it claims was its "positive evaluation" of Ottoman Rule. Turkish press noted that the series is an antithesis to official Greek history.
Nooooooo?? Really??? We have been screaming about this for two months now... and they are calling us facists for doing so!
Dear friends, if this news does not anger, offend, and aggravate even the most apathetic Greek I do not know what can...
Shame on SKAI... and shame on those very few want-to-be Greeks who are fixated on re-writing Greek history. When will they get it... history cannot be re-written, it can only be interpreted... and the wounds are too strong for us to forget and begin interpreting.
As for the Turkish newspaper.... I will comment after you read it...
As far as the columnist is concerned... surely the guy is just doing his job... but he makes a complete ass of himself anyway with every little thing he says so there is no further criticism needed.
As far as the columnist is concerned... surely the guy is just doing his job... but he makes a complete ass of himself anyway with every little thing he says so there is no further criticism needed.
The following is the column by C. CEM OĞUZ from the Hurriyet newspaper
As every columnist, I too receive some harsh criticism from readers sometimes. One such piece was “From the barbarians to Papoulias with love,” dated Jan. 24, in which I humbly criticized Greek President Karolos Papoulias’ reported remark that “[the Greeks and Armenians] were butchered by the same barbarian," namely the Turks.
“According to the evidence presented by the great Ottoman historian Halil İnalcık,” I objected to that biased and insulting statement, “Greece and Cyprus experienced their golden years under Ottoman administration.”
From the content of the messages I received from Greek readers, nevertheless, I soon realized that it was a huge mistake to reveal such a historical fact. To be honest, I questioned my sanity. Instead of trying to defend Turkey over things that she cannot reasonably be solely held responsible for, I thought I should have said, “Yes, it is we, the Turks, who are responsible for even Adam and Eve’s fall from grace.”
Even Hungarian President Pal Schmitt, who said the Hungarians were “lucky” to have been ruled by the Ottomans for 150 years because our ancestors “did not intervene in either [their] religion or [their] language,” could not calm me down. I thought in those days that we should have done away with this man long ago because he was not only distorting our history but also ruining our reputation as barbarians!
Yet I am very pleased to see nowadays that I am evidently not alone in my madness. The Greek writer Petros Tatsopoulos and his team of international historians including William St. Clair, Thanos Veremis, and Fikret Adanır who prepared the documentary “1821” are also apparently the neighborhood nutters.
The documentary, aiming to present an objective narrative of history, clearly displays that the idea the Greeks suffered under the Ottoman yoke during centuries is nothing more than a myth. Rather, it was the most prosperous era of the Greeks. More importantly, in contrast to the claims that the Ottomans slaughtered thousands of Greeks during the riots, some 20,000 innocent Muslim men, women and children were killed during the first weeks of the insurrection by Greek rebels.
As usual, the documentary caused an uproar among the Greek public. Hard core nationalists and the clerics harshly reacted to it because it was not only distorting Greek history but also was “biased” in favor of the Ottomans. Mr. Tatsopoulos was accused of being an “agent on the payroll” and “servant of foreigners.” The project was presented as a deliberate calculation of its sponsor, the National Bank of Greece, to serve its interests in Turkey, since it bought the majority shares of a Turkish bank in 2006.
Does this criticism sound familiar to you? Are the accusations different from those made in Turkey in a similar event?
If someone sincerely wants to get an healthy improvement of relations between Turkey on the one hand and Greece and Armenia on the other, (s)he must take two points of grave importance into account: First of all, both the Greeks and the Armenians are as much indoctrinated as the Turks with an ultra-nationalist version of their history that makes them too blind to reconcile with reality. Secondly, the Turks must immediately reconcile with their history, but the same is particularly valid for Greeks and Armenians, otherwise their obsession with the Turks will ruin them. Without change, there will never be a normalization of relations among these countries.
Having said this, I would like to wrap up with a little joke which I dedicate to Mr. Tatsopoulos and his colleagues who really make me optimistic for the future of Greek-Turkey relations: In the beginning, God created the Earth and rested. Then God created man and woman and partially rested. Finally, God created Armenians, Turks and Greeks. Since then, God has never ever rested.
Amen!"
Here is the link of the article that was published yesterday: www.hurriyetdailynews
There can never be any comparison to the violence imposed on enslaved Greeks,but science has proven that baffoons do not have the same brain capacity as we humans do... so I understand where this writer is coming from!
“According to the evidence presented by the great Ottoman historian Halil İnalcık,” I objected to that biased and insulting statement, “Greece and Cyprus experienced their golden years under Ottoman administration.”
From the content of the messages I received from Greek readers, nevertheless, I soon realized that it was a huge mistake to reveal such a historical fact. To be honest, I questioned my sanity. Instead of trying to defend Turkey over things that she cannot reasonably be solely held responsible for, I thought I should have said, “Yes, it is we, the Turks, who are responsible for even Adam and Eve’s fall from grace.”
Even Hungarian President Pal Schmitt, who said the Hungarians were “lucky” to have been ruled by the Ottomans for 150 years because our ancestors “did not intervene in either [their] religion or [their] language,” could not calm me down. I thought in those days that we should have done away with this man long ago because he was not only distorting our history but also ruining our reputation as barbarians!
Yet I am very pleased to see nowadays that I am evidently not alone in my madness. The Greek writer Petros Tatsopoulos and his team of international historians including William St. Clair, Thanos Veremis, and Fikret Adanır who prepared the documentary “1821” are also apparently the neighborhood nutters.
The documentary, aiming to present an objective narrative of history, clearly displays that the idea the Greeks suffered under the Ottoman yoke during centuries is nothing more than a myth. Rather, it was the most prosperous era of the Greeks. More importantly, in contrast to the claims that the Ottomans slaughtered thousands of Greeks during the riots, some 20,000 innocent Muslim men, women and children were killed during the first weeks of the insurrection by Greek rebels.
As usual, the documentary caused an uproar among the Greek public. Hard core nationalists and the clerics harshly reacted to it because it was not only distorting Greek history but also was “biased” in favor of the Ottomans. Mr. Tatsopoulos was accused of being an “agent on the payroll” and “servant of foreigners.” The project was presented as a deliberate calculation of its sponsor, the National Bank of Greece, to serve its interests in Turkey, since it bought the majority shares of a Turkish bank in 2006.
Does this criticism sound familiar to you? Are the accusations different from those made in Turkey in a similar event?
If someone sincerely wants to get an healthy improvement of relations between Turkey on the one hand and Greece and Armenia on the other, (s)he must take two points of grave importance into account: First of all, both the Greeks and the Armenians are as much indoctrinated as the Turks with an ultra-nationalist version of their history that makes them too blind to reconcile with reality. Secondly, the Turks must immediately reconcile with their history, but the same is particularly valid for Greeks and Armenians, otherwise their obsession with the Turks will ruin them. Without change, there will never be a normalization of relations among these countries.
Having said this, I would like to wrap up with a little joke which I dedicate to Mr. Tatsopoulos and his colleagues who really make me optimistic for the future of Greek-Turkey relations: In the beginning, God created the Earth and rested. Then God created man and woman and partially rested. Finally, God created Armenians, Turks and Greeks. Since then, God has never ever rested.
Amen!"
Here is the link of the article that was published yesterday: www.hurriyetdailynews
There can never be any comparison to the violence imposed on enslaved Greeks,but science has proven that baffoons do not have the same brain capacity as we humans do... so I understand where this writer is coming from!
He actually has the audacity to say that we slaughtered Turks during that period.... but he regretfully forgets that more than half of the Greek population was murdered during this period. He also forgets that we were a long-oppressed people seeking to liberate our illegally occupied country. Besides, every war has casualties, but it is sheer stupidity to label Greeks as being brutal or barbarians for fighting back.
Either that... or you Mr. Columnist and the people at SKAI channel are surely suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.
It is even more ludicrous to suggest that in their historical relations Greeks and Turks are morally equivalent; because the “non-Greeks”, and/or the show's producers, said that the tension and potential for conflict that still exists between Greece and Turkey is totally artificial and it is based on nationalist lies and myths….
Huh?
What?
Are they kidding us?
What about the invasion of Cyprus.... that is a myth?
What about Imia and the night our two countries almost went to war and the shooting down of a helicopter that cost the lives of three brave Greek soldiers? Is that a myth?
What about Smyrna and the genocide of thousands of Greeks at the turn of the century?
What about their attempt to take over half of the Aegean... is that a myth too?
All these incidents and many more just like them did not occur 100 years ago... they are happening now! And for f...cken sakes.... they are not myths!
The attempt by SKAI scholars to soften the events and give Turkish newspapers the right to comment on an era where they were at their peak in barbarism is a total tragedy.Greeks should ban from watching this channel just to teach them a lesson!
Get it through your big fat sculls... the majority of Greek people cannot, will not and will never want to forget….
Whether you like it or not our culture still suffers from the wounds of this time in our history… our proud nation which was at one point the cornerstone of civilization was purposely pulled back and lessened to slavery by you Turkey…. and if you believe for one minute that a documentary can turn that all around and just erase this from our memories then you all certainly need medical help.
Either that... or you Mr. Columnist and the people at SKAI channel are surely suffering from the Stockholm syndrome.
I applaud you for making complete fools of yourselves... and for saluting and siding with Allah Akbar Mahmet, three cheers to your Barbarian Mongol culture!!!!
Ou na mou xathite!
Ou na mou xathite!
Ou na mou xathite!
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